December 27, 2010

Brian Krause Charmed Counterfeit.

Filed under: counterfeit and questionable cards,Inkworks — webjon @ 11:13 pm

A few weeks ago Miss Lizzy’s Collectibles contacted me about a questionable Brian Krause autograph from Charmed. She graciously sent the card to me, and I could immediately tell it wasn’t right. . . but it was hard to put my finger on why. The signature was too smooth and dark, but other than that the card looked good.

Non-Sports Card Forum Moderator Anjee sent me her Krause to compare with, and even side by side you can tell there is something off, but it certainly isn’t obvious. While Anjee’s card was in route I picked up a Krause from Ink Vault on eBay. . . here are the three cards together.

As you can see the middle card isn’t quite right. . . The signature is too dark and smooth as you can see, but the most telling difference — which I didn’t even notice until I had the three cards scanned next to each other is the Inkworks seal. On the middle card it’s not quite as bold as it is on the other cards.

Surprisingly I picked up my Krause for under $4 plus shipping, and I don’t think at it’s peak this card sold for over $30. That makes this card a bit of an odd target for a counterfeiter. Clearly they aren’t just after the high end market.

Thank you to Miss Lizzy and Anjee!

Jon

Happy Holidays, and such.

Filed under: 5FINITY — webjon @ 12:42 am

One of my happiest surprises this Christmas, was this lovely 5FINITY Holiday sketch card by Amber Stone. I’ve always really enjoyed Stone’s work, and of course I love the gang at 5FINITY and what they produce (only 3 weeks until Lady Death!).

I’ve meant to write more in these last few weeks, but the holidays are exhausting — it has been a few weeks of gatherings, food, presents, etc.

It also can be exhausting keeping up with stories for webjon. I’m not complaining, but I did want to take a minute to point a few things out that will hopefully clear a few things up. . .

First. . . while there is more information about counterfeit cards on webjon.com than anywhere else the site is by no means comprehensive. Anything obvious I notice while hunting for the cards I collect I write about, but I only collect a small subset of the autographs that are out there, so I am by no means examining every eBay auction. I research the cards I buy, and you should do the same! If you see something questionable, please let the community know! Post on web forums, or email me, or comment on webjon. . . just get the word out. . .

That said. . . I don’t post about every card that looks questionable. It’s really hard to tell if a card is fake from a scan, and even when I post obvious fakes there are a subset of collectors who, for some reason, like to argue that the cards I point out are indeed authentic, although when challenged to produce a scan, or back up their statements these collectors invariably disappear. I can’t imagine how much time I’d spend responding to forum posts and emails if I posted about cards that weren’t obviously fake.

Also. . . The only benefit I get from pointing out counterfeit cards is getting them out of the hobby. It seems like some people think there is some financial motivation for me to point out fake cards. . . let me tell you — there isn’t. I don’t have advertising, and I don’t ask for ‘donations.’ So. . . think about that when you see someone arguing with me about a cards authenticity on a board. . . I have *nothing* to gain, except sharing the education I’ve gleaned from other collectors in the community . . .

Finally. . . On top of there not being any benefit for pointing out fakes — it’s generally not pleasant. Sure there is a great feeling I get when I can point out a card someone bought and help them get their money refunded, or help them avoid buying a counterfeit. But for every story that has a ‘happy ending,’ there are many more that don’t. Telling a collector they have a fake card, and it’s been too long for them to recover their money really sucks. Notifying a seller they are trying to sell a counterfeit card makes me anxious as I wait for an upset or accusatory response — if a response ever arrives.

So why do I do it? I love this hobby. . . I’m passionate about the hobby, and I want to keep it healthy. It seems like most manufacturers and magazines are afraid of the ‘C’ word — Counterfeit. That would be great if their fear of fake cards prevented them from existing.

Unfortunately these same folks that don’t want to talk about questionable cards hold the keys to stopping fake cards. Manufacturers should have been implementing security features in high end cards for years, and manufacturers and magazines should be pushing the eduction of counterfeits and counterfeit detection, but they aren’t.

We’ve spread the word considerably in 2010. . . let’s turn that up a notch in 2011!

Happy Holidays!

Jon

December 17, 2010

Fake Emma? It’s elementary, my dear Watson!

Filed under: Artbox,counterfeit and questionable cards — webjon @ 12:04 am

In looking at some auctions I noticed the following Emma Watson autographs, which bother me . . . Item 120654508525 from jediblaster0 and Item 160512423910 from gojets02 . . .

Jediblaster0. . . where have I heard that before . . . Ohh yeah, yesterday when discussing a questionable Tommy Lee Jones autograph. . .

Anyway — check out the Emma scans:

Yep. . . one of ‘em is graded. . .

What bugs me:

Well. . . dots at the end of each stroke in the signature, the ‘ma’ in ‘Emma’ in these signatures looks significantly different than in other signatures. . .

And the kicker. . . these signatures appear to be identical — i.e. likely produced mechanically by the same source, and finally — the ‘Aha moment’ The ‘W’ in Watson was clearly signed after the ‘atson,’ so either Emma signs her name out of order, or this is a counterfeit.

Jon

December 15, 2010

Up Next Tommy Lee Jones.

Filed under: counterfeit and questionable cards,Inkworks — webjon @ 7:32 pm

I came across a Tommy Lee Jones autograph while looking at a seller’s inventory on eBay. These things are *crazy* hard to find.

The seller’s image bugged me, so I searched for more scans, and to my extreme surprise there were two more on eBay.

Here is what I found (in no particular order). . . Up first:

Our first example sold for a whopping $366.00 from seller mason3461. That’s right, someone spent $366 on a card that has a scan so blurry that it’s essentially useless. I have no clue if this card is real or fake, but just given that someone would bid hundreds of dollars on a card they can’t even see clearly points out why it is relatively easy for counterfeiters to pass off fakes. This auction did not include the redemption card.

Door number two. . . not a whole lot to say about this one. Nice crisp scan. Reasonable looking autograph. ibert92 is asking $799. No details about the redemption card are listed.

Finally door number three. Nice scan, but a signature that, according to one Non-Sport Card Forum member, looks like it was written by a five year old with a crayon. jediblaster0 got just under $400 for this card without the matching redemption. Just looking at how spotty the signature on this card would have lead me to give this listing a wide berth.

So what’s the verdict. . . I don’t have a copy of a known good scan so I have no clue, but what I do know is that these cards don’t look the same.

The first scan is so crappy it’s hard to tell what’s going on. The second scan seems most likely to be legitimate, and the last scan is questionable just because of the spotty signature

I’ve combined the image into stacked cards to try to point out differences in the signature. The difficulty in that is that there are so many inconsistencies between the cards that I could point out nearly every stroke in the signature as being suspect from one card to the next. . . So I picked out the three that are the most glaringly obvious to me and decided to focus on them. . .

The red arrow is pointing out that the ‘Y’ in Tommy on the top two cards finishes in a line. The bottom one finishes in a loop.

The blue arrow points out that all of the ‘J’ in Jones are different. The top and middle are stylistically similar, but the middle has an extra flourish. Both the top and middle scans have a ‘J’ that finishes in a line, where the bottom card finishes in a loop again.

Green is pointing out the end of ‘Jones’ The ‘nes’ turns into a line in the top two signatures, but is sort of poorly, possibly misspelled (‘Jonse’).

There is no doubt to me that these differences show that the signatures on these cards were not all from the same hand. The top two cards (from what I can see in the junk scan/photo) appear to be pretty similar, but the bottom one is really different.

Personally I never would have bought the top card because of the image. It could be legit, it could be autopen, it could be a color copy, who knows. The middle card would be the one I would try to find out more about if I were looking to buy. If they seller seemed legitimate, I’d be pretty comfortable with that card (at least until I got it into my hands and could examine it in person). I wouldn’t touch the bottom card with a proverbial 10 foot pole. The nail in the coffin, in my mind, for that card is the teeny tiny scan on Inkworks’ website:

As tiny as that scan is you can still tell the signature doesn’t match the ’5 year old with crayon’ signature on the last card.

This appears to be yet another case of someone bidding a bunch of money on a card without doing the slightest bit of research.

Jon

December 14, 2010

Super Questionable Superman Returns Autos.

Filed under: counterfeit and questionable cards,Topps — webjon @ 12:17 am

A Card Talker recently contacted me about some Superman Returns autographs he got a great deal on. They came from eBay seller coolstuffhere, and as soon as I saw the scan I was concerned as all the signatures were in blotchy black ink. The Superman Returns autographs I am familiar with all are signed in smooth blue ink.

Cult-Stuff’s Jason did a bunch of photographic analysis and posted about it on Card Talk. He could see fibers or hairs that looked as though they came from under the sticker, as well as inconsistencies with the autograph — close visual inspection showed the signature wasn’t signed in proper order. You can actually see some of the fibers in the following scan:

Unfortunately the buyer is just outside of the 45 day window to get Paypal/eBay involved in the situation. He contacted the seller, who essentially blew him off. I hope to have updates on these cards as the buyer continues to attempt to resolve this situation. Here is a scan of the Kevin Spacey:

And all of the cards in the set are viewable here.

Have you pulled a black ink Superman Returns card? If so please send a scan! Any ideas to help this buyer get restitution?

Jon

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