February 22, 2010

Field Report: Alyssa Milano Charmed Conversations Auto.

Filed under: counterfeit and questionable cards,General,Inkworks,news — webjon @ 9:43 pm

Michael M. unfortunately has three gbapack cards in his collection, and as of now he’s determined they all are counterfeit. . .

Here’s the skinny on my Alyssa Milano Charmed: Conversations autograph card. It appears authentic (to my untrained eye). I see no obvious differences between my card and your scans, and my card has an easily-distinguished watermark.

Up until now I haven’t looked very closely at the autograph (i.e. under a magnifying lens). It looked good to the naked eye and the card is watermarked, so I felt fairly confident. To be perfectly honest, this card has been in my “to sell” pile for a while, and until recently I wouldn’t have had second thoughts about listing it. Well, I had second thoughts so I examined it again under a lens. That was (to me) inconclusive. There appear to be dots at the ends of the signature (i.e. autopen), but not blatant ones. Finally, I did some high resolution scans and that settled the whole question.

Yes, there are dots at the ends of each pen stroke, but here is the damning evidence: the autograph is signed backwards. The autograph is so crisp and clear, you can see the actual pen strokes. If you look carefully, you can see that “Milano” is signed first (starting correctly with the ‘M’). You can see that the ‘l” is superimposed by the ‘sa’ in ‘Alyssa’. If you look at the way ‘Alyssa’ is signed, you can see the tail on the final ‘a’ is superimposed by the second ‘s’. Perhaps most obviously, the strokes on the initial ‘A’ are completely reversed.

You have to look closely at the scan (the full scan sent to me is available here), but if you trace the outline of the A in Alyssa you can see what Michael is saying — it is indeed signed backwards.

I examined the card closely and noticed the autopen dots, as well as the offset Inkworks authentic foil stamp noted by Steve. I took Michael’s scan as well as a couple of scans that I have of known authentic Milano autographs, including one from Ink Vault and I drew lines on ‘em with photo editing software.

As a reference point I started with the ‘C’ in the word ‘Conversations’ in the Charmed Conversations logo at the bottom of the card. I lined all of those up horizontally with a black line. Then I drew another black line at the top of the ‘dots’ in the Inkworks Authentic foil stamp. As you can see Michael’s card (the card at the right) has a logo that is slightly lower than the other two, which line up perfectly. Vertically I started at outside of the right most dot in the Inkworks Authentic Foil stamp and drew a line down. The line crosses the ‘Charmed’ logos through the ‘d’ on the legitimate cards. On the counterfeit card that line falls between the ‘m’ and the ‘e’

Thank you very much to Michael for sharing his story about this card and helping out the community.

Jon

February 18, 2010

Field Report: Dafoe, Dushku and Carpenter


NonSportsCardForum member JerS86 was kind enough share some questionable cards in their collection.

In these unfortunate collecting days it is great to see collectors continuously reaching out to share their stories and contact other buyers of questionable cards. . .

In looking at the scans JerS86 set, I am in complete agreement. Here are JerS86′s comments as to why the cards were being questioned:

I noticed the Dafoe was fake when I saw what someone on this forum posted about ilovenewyork. It’s the same as the one’s he was selling.

Then, I started looking at all of my autograph cards under a 10x magnifying glass and I pulled out the ones that looked a little too perfect.

I originally suspected the Dushku was a fake when I saw how bold and perfect the signature was. I compared it to all of the Dushku’s I could find on eBay and none of them looked as bold as mine. Also here’s an auction that prooves it’s a fake, same exact signature: eBay item: 360221543215, Seller: whysteve.

The Carpenter signature was also a little too perfect. So, I checked eBay and found the same exact card being sold by ihatehappypeople.

I hope this helps.

The Dafoe and Dushku cards that have been questioned multiple times, but this is the first Charisma Carpenter Veronica Mars autograph I’ve seen a collection question. As you can see the Dafoe and Carpenter autos have the tell tale ‘dots’ at the ends of the lines in the signatures, and the Dushku is an exact copy of several others that have been sold.

I have been hoping to do a detailed analysis of these cards, but I haven’t been able to find the time, it’ll come at some point. Thank you very much to JerS86, hopefully this will have more field reports in the future, with any luck it’ll simply be alerts to eBay auctions, and not about cards that have already been purchased.

Jon

February 10, 2010

Gillian Anderson counterfeited ?!? The truth is in here.

A couple of days ago Michael M posted a couple of comments on Webjon in the loveandnewyork thread. Michael had the misfortune of buying a Gillian Anderson autograph card from gbapack, so he had the right to be concerned. He compared his Anderson to some other cards, and here is what he found:

Well, here are scans (front and back of the card). As you can see, it’s
identical to the one that loveandnewyork had listed last year. I purchased
mine from gbapack on 3/10/08. Interestingly enough, I also purchased an
Alyssa Milano/Charmed Conversations card from him around the same time, and it appears to be authentic with a nicely visible watermark.

You can see on the reverse at the bottom, the “F” is missing in “X-Files”.
This may or may not be on the original card.

When comparing it to other Inkworks cards (in particular a Juliet
Landau/Spike card), it is cut to the same size. However, it seems to be a
slightly lighter stock and has a matte finish front and back; other Inkworks
cards have a glossier finish on the back. I also compared it to a Mimi
Rogers/X-Files Connections card from Razor. Along with the matte finish, the
biggest difference appears to be the color of the character’s name written
vertically in bold on the reverse. On the Gillian Anderson card, the name is
in a light or pale yellow, while on the Mimi Rogers card the name is in a
more golden yellow. The same may be true of the names on the front, but the
lettering is smaller so it’s harder for me to judge.

The real clincher (for me) is the autograph itself. You can clearly see that
both “Gillian” and “Anderson” end in hard dots; other examples of her
autograph show smooth lines. More telling are the two dashes, which are
actually dots over the i’s in “Gillian”. Again, other (all?) examples of her
autograph show a hard dot followed by a lighter trailing dash as she’s
quickly moving her pen. This autograph shows a hard dot, followed by a
thick, sold line, ending in another hard dot. And this happens twice in the
same autograph.

At this point, it looks like I just get to write this up as a learning
experience (a $275 dollar one, at that). But if I can share any information
that will save other people their hard-earned money, I’m all for that.

Michael’s analysis is dead on, in comparing his scan to other scans provided to me I’ve seen everything he’s described, from the slightly different font / color in the character name to the missing ‘F’ in X-Files in the copyright on the back of the card. Additionally on the back of the card the letter ‘w’ is missing in the word ‘winning,’ and the Inkworks Authentic Foil Stamp is in a slightly different place. He also confirmed to me that the Anderson card does not have an Inkworks watermark. Like with the Maggie Grace card we will never be able to get Inkworks to confirm this is a counterfeit, but it certainly is.





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